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08/05/2021 at 1:33 pm in reply to: New owner requesting some advice and a few more questions. #21770form3dParticipant
Certainly looks like my former GP14 with the mahogany rubbing strake and formed bench seating on all GRP hull and topsides. The mains’l traveller arrangement along the transom is typical of the Mk2. The Westcliff Davies badge is probably the original seller or club membership. As I recall the shape of the thwarts is often an identifier between types and I will try to find my files from the old boat. My makers plate and serial no. was on the hull floor which in your case looks to be covered with a load of rough white paint. Mine was an approx. 3″x2″ metal plate with a stamped identification no. of around 6 digits towards the port side stern. Look for a slight raised rectangle inside the hull and if you find something like that which has no real reason to be there some very gentle paint stripping may reveal a plate. I will try to locate my files and post again to confirm that my memories are correct.
form3dParticipantEureka. A bit of gentle rubbing with acetone soaked cloth and her build/sail number is 8385 putting her firmly in Nettleship’s “Early Plastic Boats” extract as a Thames Marine. I guess this would just about be enough to re-register her with the class association and get the sail number id sorted? In any case, thank you very much for spending so much time on this one. Your help has been absolutely invaluable. The only question I have left is: why on earth would anyone rudely paint over a makers plate?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.form3dParticipantJust found a boat with many features identical to mine, on the Yahoo Owners Community site! The centreboard casing looks identical, as do the side deck supports. This is Faugh A Ballagh, obviously from Ireland, sail number 8077.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.form3dParticipantAnd the two that didn’t load …
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You must be logged in to view attached files.form3dParticipantDeck support bracket, (camera lens about 5 inches from bracket and level with side seat moulding) … hullfloor with an interesting 3×1.5 inch raised plastic oblong about 16 inches aft of centre board case (unfortunately this has been painted and a screw fastening from the skeg rubbing protection penetrates it). I can feel no raised or indented surfaces on this small plate and I’m thinking about how I might remove the paint without damaging anything that may have been printed on its surface. Centerboard case with no sign of thumbwheel mounting either side (the present board is positioned with jam cleats forward and aft). And lastly; aft centreboard case where some sort of cleat or jammer has been removed, or possible a kicking strap fixing. All posts on the subject have been much appreciated by the way.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.form3dParticipantVery different deck supports than mine which are almost concealed unless you peer at the underside of the side decks and are principally a means of bonding the hull sides to the deck. Thanks Steve for the heads up on the the possibility of the hull number being stamped into the hull aft of the centreboard case. I’ve had the floor boards out for re-varnishing but didn’t notice anything as the interior glass has had a fairly rough coat of paint. Will examine more carefully tomorrow and will photograph my deck supports.
form3dParticipantWe’re certainly getting closer to identifying her but I fear we may never put a definitive date/number on her as following a forensic search inside and outside of hull with a brilliant torch I can find no sign of a makers/moulders plate (thanks by the way for suggesting the two most likely locations) but no joy. I have put a rough sketch with a couple more details of construction which may help.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.form3dParticipantBrilliant and knowledgeable, hope you’re in robust good health as this stuff is invaluable and we need to get it in a database for posterity! Your specific references to makers and to the Nettleson history are particularly useful for my further research. Never quite understood why there should be so much history easily available to car owners, but such patchy documented stuff for boats. And by the way, there’s a GP14 on eBay at the moment, “Dolphin” in Gwynedd, which looks very like mine. Many thanks for your considered replies.
form3dParticipant…and yet again another fairly identifiable feature is the transom tiller aperture which is a slightly vee’d oblong 100mm high and 130mm wide at top and 100mm wide at bottom, complete with chips at bottom either side where tiller has obviously been shoved over rather hard! … I’m on the GP14 yahoo open members forum by the way but there seems no way to search either that or the International class association forum by subject, so as yet have had no joy finding anything definitive which may identify my boat or maker.
form3dParticipantThanks Oliver for your very prompt reply and welcome. That should be TWO mahogany bench strips either side and moulded buoyancy hull tanks under bow deck and side benches. The mast has no spreader and is stayed with shrouds through deck, with Cunningham but no kicker and a full transom mainsheet traveller. Still can’t find a maker/moulder’s plate, but have included 3 photos which didn’t go from my phone so hopefully will load this time.
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